Sixty8panther

Still ugly.... still looks like someone hit its face with a shovel.

Fantastic. Julie's MB 500SEC just turned 201,000 the other day.

Now THAT is a Pontiac.

In FoGs defense, California DOES have a disproportionately large amount of idiots, morons & waste-of-sperm-types living there, & this coming from me, I live in the Socialist state of Taxachusetts.

I work the pre-load shift at UPS, so technically I go work out every day for several hours in the wee-hours of the night... anyone making blanket statements about Union workers, as I have in the past truth be told, should work at UPs for a few weeks and they'll be singing a different tune. We hustle like a bunch of rented mules, without the union the Big Brown Bosses would squeeze blood from a rock.

Toyota, like most, said F*** you to real enthusiasts when they stopped making affordable RWD. You can not drift FWD, period...& besides no real enthusiast settles for FWD. The Scion lineup and Solara are as exciting as watching paint dry, even the FWD Corolla based Celica is dead.

It's fu*&ing time.... heads MUST roll, blood must flow. The only way to fully cure a cancer patient is to CUT the cancer out, seems like the USA has several nasty tumors and they're in need of removal.

GM4life's post from pg.7 is the best list so far, I would add: - American IDLE + any & all dumb, mindless TV. - People who can not think for themselves - 99.9% of politicians Sadly, the REAL me, not "68p", has not posted on there in months... My two jobs are keeping me busy, esp. UPS, in fact there's nights where I can not allocate sleep, that really sux, I'm a waking Zombie.

Seriously... what the hell exactly is the silver lining here?

I will kill and or commit any heinous act for the RED DEVIL! Def. one of the top three coolest V-16 Cadillacs of all time. The cream of the crop, the Navy Seal of V-16s...

In TXT messages and to be funny I'll call XP's "schoolbus" a 'Burban and SP's old Malibu was a 'Bu.... However I do not recognize FWD unibody Malibus as real Malibus, so they are NEITHER TO ME. Corsica 2.0/3.0 or 4.0 J/K (mostly) BTW: the last Monte Carlo was made in 1988 and had a frame, the Lumina-Euro-Coupe 2.0 & 3.0 are just that.... The last Impala was made in 1996.... that FWD thing MIGHT be worthy of the Biscayne moniker at BEST.

Mo-Par or No-Car! Can someone tell me the year?

True... but they need to get in line behind Honda, (Element, Ridgeline, new buck-toothed Acuras) Toyota, (FJ-Cruiser, Echo, Pretty much every truck and sedan mdae in the past 8 years... & not to forget the Scion xB, xA.)

DF filled ME in jut recently. I had no idea it was a blatant rebadge. I could give a @%% less about any VW that is not air-cooled.

The Mercedes & BMW are both quite nice IMHO, while the BMW uses the black plastic in a creative & well placed manner that still makes the front fascia look elegant, the Land Rover looks down-right out of date and economy car cheap... the Saab is alright but certainly not a looker, esp. at its price .

The new SRX sux, what with its huge FWD overhang. That being said this Lexus looks like a Chinese knock-off of the last gen. SRX. Terrible.

On a positive note.... I'm lovin ' the new B-59 Sig. Balthy. How close is yous to done?

Yup.... if I was to buy a Japanese car Datsun/Nissan/Infiniti would be the most likely of them all, that being said I'm happy to drive my beat to sh!t B-body winter-car turned daily driver and leave my Datsun obsession in the past. Of course if Mazda ever made a modern iteration of a RX-4 in a 2-door hardtop with a tripple-rotary bi-turbo motor and a 6-speed manual trans. I just might turn hypocrite.

So true. The loss of the INLINE-6 is THE worst thing to happen to the Jeep lineup in three decades, no V6 will ever be better than an INLINE-6 of the same pedigree. EDIT: I'm still waiting for Pontiac and Buick to bring back the inline-8. How cool would that be? (spare me your safety-nazi bull$hit.)

Still better in EVERY way than a Toyo-DUR Echo.

Ummmm.... yeah. Also, like Balthy said: Many a solid abandoned project car or parts car will be crushed. Including '69 Chevelles, '71 Oldsmobiles, '55 Pontiacs, '61 Cadillacs & maye even a '59 Buick or two....

Back in 19_ _ this companies' corporate report showed a very eclectic mix of products and business-spin-offs including vehicles here in the USA, Europe, sold under (up to) eight different brands depending on how you count, H/V/AC products, marine products and several defense projects, incl - Jupiter ballistic missiles - Redstone medium range ballistic missiles - M60 Tanks - Space program Also, in the same corporate report are some other notable accomplishments: - Safety Awards for TEN of the company's operating units - Assembler/Distributors in India, Columbia, Mexico, Venezuela, Australia, Spain, Netherlands & South Africa... (incomplete list) - R&D in fuel cell, thermo-electricity, compression-ignition& turbine motors ------ Name the company and year(s).

Good for him. Nice job. I've been saying EXACTLY that for years. WWE = Soap Opera + Violence NASCAR = WWE on wheels

more proof that mediocrity is boss these days.

I'm a semi-agnostic Atheist, not religious at all (I am however, spiritual) I AM mot certainly a gun-nut and a proponent of the 2nd amendment, which I value over my own life. Wealthy... err.... I work two jobs and still have a hard time affording my basic bills! I am white though, so somehow that makes me in a position of power....? I think not. I can't side entirely with either party, both have MAJOR flaws.