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Because it doesn't address the fundamental structural costs of the company. GM needs to get lean, not increase their marketing budget.

Yes, I read the quotes. No, I am not wrong about support. These ideas help marketing, not the structural problems within GM that prevent them from PRODUCING world-class cars. You have had your Return To Greatness sliced and diced by people on this site who actually work in the industry and are involved with the MANUFACTURING. You seem to have things backwards...marketing isn't the raison d'etre of a company, the product is. Stop capitalizing on people's fears of bankruptcy. It isn't gonna happen.

Heh. "The Catholic with a Protestant mentality" is your new slogan, Mr. A-Penny-Saved-Is-A-Penny-Earned.

Again, this Return to Greatness only addresses marketing of GM as a company. Marketing marketing marketing. There is more than just marketing to GM. GM manufactures. GM has labor relations. GM has advertising and marketing. GM has to worry about exchange rates. It is extremely silly to look at GM's problems as solely an issue of marketing. That is why no one takes this plan seriously, not GM, not GM's shareholders, and not the insiders on this board.

hahahahahahahahaha i love it i love it i love it [/Molly Shannon]

Ahhh...he's got you fooled! Wanna know why it sounds so good? Because it focuses on marketing the vehicles as if customer satisfaction is the ONLY priority and does not take into account manufacturing processes. It looks great on paper but like communism is very flawed on a very fundamental level.

But GM isn't at a bankruptcy risk. For a company to file for bankruptcy, they must first qualify for it. GM does not, and that is something any intelligent being knows who does more than listen to the talking heads on TV. :rolleyes:

Why did you post all of this? I thought you wanted money for it? What happened, no one came to your seminars? Seriously...I just don't understand.

They made them for Europe and America. As a result they were too wide for Euro tastes and were cancelled there after 3 years of sales. In America, they were some of the narrowest vans on the market.

Looks pretty tite.

It kinda looks like a Prius in shape...but very very sexy.

happy birthday man! cremazie: maybe hes jewish and doesnt have to worry about that shiiiiiiiiit!

Heavens no! The Malibu needs a significant redesign.

Avanti

hahaha thank you ah-ha for being the insider with a sense of humor.

...you sure they were talking Ford and not Mitsubishi?

Wow I have a hard time imagining BMW using anything less than its own cars as rentals.

Wait...GM just cans vehicles because too much gets revealed? Wow...they might want to plug up their security leaks before cancelling good product. :rolleyes: So, what's the new plan?

That front is nasty...the bulbous grille is/front fascia really detracts from what is otherwise a decent-looking car.

I always think of that Men At Work song cuz they say "fried out Combi" in there...

Eh, the Sebring convertible has a better interior than the 1991 Cutlass hands down. I agree with the other shortcomings, though.

I think what makes it eco-unfriendly is that a lot of people cannot burn them due to having gas fireplaces and/or do not wish to burn them due to the carbon emissions. If one doesn't consume the tree, it gets put out on the curb and the trash people take it away unless a local park has a drop-off for recycling like Indianapolis does. I have no problem with real trees as long as they get turned into paper or something instead of just being thrown away. But you are right, Xmas trees generally do come from farms and trees specifically made for such a purpose, so no deforestation worries there ;)

Other: I like the high driving position because that way I can actually see the road and the other cars on it with fewer issues. That said, I doubt I will get a truck since a crossover SUV will do the same and get better mileage...

What my family has always done is first, at the tree farm, they have a machine that shakes the tree to get those needles out before we even take it home. Then, to minimize the mess, we have an old white sheet on the floor surrounding the tree, and that catches the pine needles so all we have to do is carefully gather the sheet and take it outside to shake off after we take the tree down. Hopefully that'll help some of y'all ;)

IIRC the CTS is a bit of a porker in the weight dept.