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FOG, you are an idiot. Of course the general shape of things will be the same, but look! you CANNOT swap out an Escalade grille and put in a Yukon grille if you wanted to! Pontiacs have NOT had grilles that couldn't be swapped out. The only other GM brand that had this to an extent was Oldsmobile, and only for some models. You wanna argue the tacky vs. successful argument, fine. But that would mean that you would be arguing that RICE isn't tacky because it is popular and lucrative. And before you get all pissy about my calling you an idiot and screaming "personal attack!" you definitely attacked me first by calling me ignorant. Seriously, it isn't that hard to be civil. :rolleyes:

Didn't you watch the preview? She was flirting with her "new son" constantly. Very sexual. Kinda slutty. Very HOT!

Cost of living is a LOT cheaper in Nashville. That, and other operational costs are the reason for the move.

There are only two exterior details that I find "funny": 1) the little chrome flourishes beneath the wreath and crest on the grilles. The strike me as strange. 2) the location of the reverse lamps. I would have preferred them flanking the license plate bracked like in every other Cadillac.

Only "funny" details I don't like are: 1) the little chrome flourishes below the wreath and crest on the grille 2) the location of the reverse lamps. I would have preferred them flanking the license plate bracket like in most Cadillacs.

BTW, thanks, evok, for the edmunds link. Very interesting about the front end... While I do like the new Escalade and gave the exterior an A, I wouldn't have minded an edgier design at all, though this one will probably wear a little better longer than an edgier design. So far my favorite Cadillac is still the SRX, if only the rear quarter panels had been detailed better then it would be perfect.

But those costs are far outweighed by the benefits of keeping GMC around. Buick-Pontiac dealerships need GMC for sales, GMC is marketed as (and in most respects is) an upscale version of Chevrolet. The styling is less aggressive, and the overall image is one of refinement that Chevrolet just does not have. There are huge marketing costs for ANY brand, and GMC is no exception. That said, it helps spread out costs between Chevrolet, HUMMER and Cadillac. Like Mercury to Ford and Lincoln. GMC is very profitable, and GM would be foolish to get rid of it any time soon. I do not doubt that a boneheaded plan to phase out GMC was in place back in 2000 because that's the same time-frame as the boneheaded phase-out of Olds. Dumb dumb dumb. Now granted, GMC could be phased out without the huge costs of Olds due to the fact that GMC has very few (if any?) stand-alone dealerships. But again, it all comes down to two things: volume and consumers. The new Yukon and Tahoe are prime examples of two vehicles, essentially the same (different front clips, rear trim, slight interior modifications), who are marketed to and bought by two very different demographics of consumers. GM would be crazy to abandon this, especially since most GMC owners wouldn't be caught dead in a mechanically-identical Chevy. It really does not cost GM that much to design and manufacture a new front clip, taillight housings and guage cluster faceplate. Certainly nothing close to the 35-55k GMC charges for these vehicles. All those overhead costs I am sure are also minimized by the way GMC is internally set up with Pontiac. Same marketing budget between the two, and a very complementary product lineup. Sorry, I'm not buying it, especially since you yourself have said it would be crazy to get rid of GMC. :rolleyes:

Heh this sucks...stupid accountants.

Are you kidding me? Maybe you should talk to you good friend evok about this, he'll set you straight. There is a VERY good business case for GMC...namely that there are a lot of people who won't buy a Chevy, but will shell out MORE money for a 95% identical GMC. GMC is essentially pure profit, only minor sheetmetal changes. GMC buyers rarely cross-shop Chevy, and vice versa. I thought you had a pretty good sense of the industry...??

No, AH-HA is right. Y'all are being brutal, calling this thing a "Yukon clone" and other such rubbish. There is a large amount of differentiation between the three GMT-900s, more than there was on the 800s or really ever has been in the past of these vehicles. YET the people on C&G are still finding things to b!tch about. Y'all are hopeless. This Escalade features an ALL-NEW interior that is very much DISTINCT from the Tahoe/Yukon. The front is all new. For crying out loud the thing doesn't even have a grille! It has sixteen minigrilles located in the front sheet metal! Look at some more pictures...that is sheet metal between the grilles, not plastic. So WHOOPS! there goes some of your arguments about "just swapped out a Yukon grille" I mean please how ignorant can you get? As far as I'm concerned, this Escalade is an out-of-the-park grand slam. Exterior: A Interior: A+ You see that? I don't think I've EVER rated a new GM that highly before! Cadillac shouldn't be "in your face" with its styling. That just makes it another wannabe luxo-marque. Cadillac should have distinct styling that is CLASSY. NOT overdone. NOT tacky, and YES, the GMT800 Escalade is TACKY in every aspect and every sense of the word.

Agree with Bobo... But symbols are powerful in America.

Anyone else notice that the interior of the Escalade has a flowing, one-piece center stack whereas the others do not? Classy.

Hahahahaha that was some funny sh!!t... WOW...I can't wait for next week with the slut mom!

pardon?

Agreed. Had McCain run in 2004, I wouldn't have voted for Kerry.

Escalade interior is completely different from the other two...Exterior is differentiated enough for my tastes, especially since the 800s are pretty similar. I like it. Honestly, I like it.

Don't get me wrong, Obama is a good Dem...but I really think it will be Bayh, Robertson, or Warner, especially after the VA election results...

The PAL being one L logic sounds good, except the word is not an English-originating word; it is Zulu in origin.

Seriously, Nick...you make this site worth reading. We are def gonna hang out at LAIAS.

Obama doesn't really have much of a shot at the presidency. The country wants a moderate...and Obama is still a bit left. Look for liberal Republicans or conservative Democrats as the next president or two...

Imaj is my favorite Cadillac ever. I really wish GM would just produce the damn thing.

Not really a drinking game, but sake bombing is always fun!

that's so true...

Which Bambi are you referring to?

and pacific :AH-HA_wink: