Dragon

My last two companies have bought minivans instead of their cousin panel vans because they use it to not only move equipment, but also sometimes use the full seating capacity to move employees. So there is definitely a “professional” market out there for it. Hell, I've seen what smallish families can do to a minivan. I have no doubt some families NEED a professional grade minivan too.

I like that chop, but I don't think they could have that extractor hood with a big olg s/c on top. Plus, it looks kinda retarded with the scoop.

thats a little much. Between slumping Magnum sales and the new crossovers, GM should have one (MAYBE 2) wagons

put down the minivan idea and back away slowly

still brings a tear to my eye

as long as its not an acronym, I would think VW would be able to use Iroc

oh dear god no. its nice to see they have a base, but if tehy brought something over, it would have to look a lot more aggressive for me to consider one over a maggie

+1 Car engine, car frame, truck class? Oh well, that’s $10 more of free gas.

not a big surprise. I don't think GM has confiremed anything else on Zeta yet, have they?

I like the tail and body lines fromt the first sketch a lot more than what we got

or a little FWD econobox

woot, my first pinned topic

To start from scratch, from concept to validation runs can take a long time. It has to be designed to be flexible, which takes longer than dedicated tooling too. Plus, if they are planning to build it in Oshawa, Plant #2 isn’t scheduled for shutdown till 2008, so its gonna be a while before they can install it. Unless the move production out of plant #2 before then. We are in the final stages of building the line for the rear frame of the next Seqouia and it has taken about 10-11 months, and it still has to be validated down at the customers.

Time to start racking up those GM Visa points

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet...n=3&docid=27934 TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. – Dear sports car fans: General Motors heard you loud and clear. GM Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner announced today that GM will build an all-new version of the Chevrolet Camaro sport coupe based on the award-winning concept that stole the spotlight at the North American International Auto Show and has ignited the passion of car enthusiasts around the world ever since – even spurring consumers to start petition drives and send in certified checks in hopes of placing early deposits. “The overwhelmingly enthusiastic response to the Camaro Concept continues to remind me of the uniquely iconic place our products can have in customers’ hearts,” Wagoner said. “Camaro is much more than a car; it symbolizes America's spirit and its love affair with the automobile.” The all-new Camaro will begin with early production versions at the end of 2008 and will go on sale in the first quarter of 2009. “The new Camaro will be almost identical to the concept, a thoroughly modern interpretation of the 1969 model, considered by many to be the best design of the car’s first generation,” said Ed Welburn, GM's global vice president of design, who owns a 1969 Camaro SS. The front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sport coupe will feature an independent rear suspension, and will be offered in a variety of models with the choice of manual and automatic transmissions and V-6 and V-8 engines. Chevrolet General Manager Ed Peper said the new Camaro will appeal to both men and women, and unite customers with fond memories of previous Camaros with those who first experienced a Camaro when the concept was unveiled in January. “We intend to make the all-new Camaro relevant to younger buyers while retaining its appeal to current fans,” said Peper. “The beauty of the best Camaros is that they have always been beautiful to look at with performance that rivals expensive European GTs. Yet they were practical enough to drive every day and priced within the reach of many new-car buyers.” In fact, the Camaro Concept design team embodies the universal appeal that Chevy envisions for the car: The core team reporting to the lead designer ranges in age from 27-35 and came from all over the world, yet they all had similar experiences growing up with a love for the Camaro and American performance cars. Their concept redefines the Camaro for both existing and new generations of fans in a contemporary way with responsive performance and modern technology. Peper said Camaro will complement Chevy’s already-popular portfolio of performance vehicles led by Corvette and including its broad SS lineup.

Camaro’s better be loud. A quite exhaust is a terrible thing

HAPPY CAMARO DAY!!!!!! Anybody know what time the announcement is expected?

definitely a go. brampton has started tooling up I believe

back is pretty good, but the front kind looks like a crosseyed aston martin

another article on the subject http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/16/news/inter...dex.htm?cnn=yes I know GM is already starting to improve its status, but I still get the feeling that the vultures are circling

broke? a little slump is far from broke.

we migth not liek what he's doing, but he's still a smart man. Hoiw many millions has he made for his investors in the past week or so.

not bad. but not great either. I can really see MB in the headlights

http://www.autonet.ca/Facilities/story.cfm...1654647-ap.html

Best question in there, "How do you update a retro vehicle?". I'm looking forward to seeing the answer