PurdueGuy

kinda cool.

Exactly my thought - tail end looks very very similar to the post-refresh L300 tail, headlights have some resemblance, though smaller, and the overall look feels similar. Really, the post-refresh L300 is a very nice looking car...

I think it looks pretty good...

If you're including car-based SUVs, then don't forget the HHR... even if it is just a small car with an SUV look. lol man the lines are hard to draw these days...

+1 I definitely like the Outlook better than this now. I'm undecided as to whether the Enclave or Outlook looks better - they're nicely different.

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Looks handsome, but not quite as exciting as I'd hoped. I don't think that's such a terrible thing, though - the Malibu is bound to *not* be the most exciting car - it's a major volume car. For a volume car, it looks great.

I would guess this is at least 5 years away, which is too far for Spring Hill, at least as the next product to go in Spring Hill - there's enough room it could be added later, but I don't think there's any reason to believe they've picked a plant for it while it's still so conceptual.

A few nights ago I enjoyed a story from a coworker about when he crossed the border. Pretty sure he's legal by now, though - he's been in the US for like 15-20 years, has family & stuff, and has worked in places that would definitely do background checks & such. He's a really smart, kind, hard working guy, and one of the best coworkers I have. Maybe we should install a gate in the fence with some sort of intelligence test - let all the smart people cross the border.

How many Miatas were sold each year the last few years? Can we see a notable dent in their sales #s?

12 hybrids, not 23.

Sorry Isuzu, Toyota already took up the hole you left behind in the Lafayette, IN Subaru plant.

A long-term cost analysis would be interesting - I'm sure road signs aren't cheap, and while some may stay up for 20 years or something (not sure, guessing), others get changed as speed limits change, etc, or as drunk drivers take them out. lol Slowly implement the in-car signage over, say, 15 years (5 years of the in-car display being an option, then move it to a standard feature, then a required feature), let cities slowly invest in the transmitting technology (one transmitting station could probably cover many, many square miles). Standalone units would need to be available for classic cars, of course. I'm just thinking of times when I've suddenly wondered if I was speeding or not, and couldn't spot a speed limit sign for the life of me. Of course, I expect once the car is able to know the speed limit for itself, the gov't would probably put speed regulators in cars accordingly.

You get a chance to drive one yet? They're quite fun. *edit* (the Red Line, that is... the other Ion models are ok, but not exciting)

Yup, probably even if they have it for 2 or 3 brands. IIRC, the factory was still way under capacity when it was building both the Ion and Vue.

not really interested. I would think a better use of such technology would be to have road signs shown on an in-car screen - speed limit, construction signs, highway directional signs, mile markers, do not pass, etc, etc. I can use my mirrors to see that someone is beside me, and don't need a vibrating seat to tell me.

Would be nice if that stayed at Spring Hill, but has $$ already been invested in preparing the plant in mexico for the new Vue? Or is it still soon enough to change that?

been posted before.

keep in mind that spring hill no longer equal Saturn. Not sure they're going to be jumping to give Saturn yet another new product after all they've gotten recently... I could be wrong.

Would be sweet to have the Astra built there, but I wouldn't expect the Astra to be built in the US until the next full redesign, which IIRC is still a couple years away? Maybe they'll move it forward, or start it here sooner than Europe? How long does retooling usually take, and would the $225M include the tooling costs for whatever vehcile(s)?

For those complaining about the price - keep in mind it's a niche vehicle, and GM is trying to be profitable. Would you rather GM not make niche vehicles? They've gotta pay for the development costs somehow - it's likely to not be a high volume seller... and maybe if it is, they can lower the cost.

Sorry, but if Autoweek is correct, no 5 speed for you. Can you deal with a 6 speed manual instead? http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/61207008/1063 They're also speculating on engine options - they expect no diesels (I guess the ones offered in europe don't meet us specs), and expect a n/a base engine, and 2 turbo'd engines.

Some of you are missing why these could be very popular - racing! Many racing organizations don't allow soft top racing - you have to install a hard top. Add onto that weight loss, if hyperv6 is correct, and you have something that racers will love. Plus, it increases cargo space (I'm pretty sure you remove the rear deck lid), and head room. And personally, I think they look very decent. I think they should come up with a cheaper, more normal hard top option, though - something that doesn't extend all the way back, doesn't have the added expense of the extra material and lift gate, and make the rear defrost optional as well. I could see racers wanting a basic hard top without any fancy doodads, and they'd still be able to remove the soft top for weight loss. Others would just want it to retain the convertible looks.

Guess they equated the Ion Red Line with the Cobalt SS and excluded it? *shrug* I guess they're close enough...

Or another smart parks behind you & blocks you in? lol