Oracle of Delphi

I think it looks great!

Glad to see you're out and about again!

Not to mention all the fines, sanctions, and all the other crap that has been going on.

That is one handsome truck!

Desiderio intenso sulla loro parte!

Do you now? Well we shall see, it seems this person has some people within GM who think as he does. The Tree Huggers and the U.S. Government are also helping his cause although they don't know it, but in the political battle within GM, they are helping more than they could ever know. Camaro and G8 for now are safe, but anything after that is well, it's not looking good to say the least. I personally think Zeta will fall under it's own weight of 4000 + pounds and CAFE standards, so I'm willing to wait and see what happens. Ask yourself this, what area of the world is not getting Zeta, then ask yourself why? As for Lutz, time is marching on, better hurry! Tick, tock, tick, tock.

It looks like a very hilly neighborhood, must be a bitch in the snow.

Well then you better hope Lutz sticks around, conventional wisdom says his replacement (whenever that is) is no fan of Holden and Bob is not getting any younger you know.

I don't too much worry about going bald, I'll just do the Italian combover, you know when you comb your backhair up over your head!

I'm with Lutz on this one, sorry!

Perfection, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I'll let you argue that point with Bob Lutz, I don't report up through Bob, I report up through Opel, you know the ones who invented the platform you drive around in when you drive your GTO.

Don't be mad at me because Bob Lutz said it was a failure, however I do agree with him. He didn't say it failed because it shared bodypanels, he said one reason it failed was because the design was dated. To me it had the same look in a general sense, as the Omega and Catera, so in North America's eyes it was old and dated, no matter if it shared bodypanels or not.

Yeah Camino me too, but we are not teens or 20 somethings anymore!

Ohhhh! I thought you were talking about the new truck!

Non desidero dirlo affatto! :AH-HA_wink:

What is your one major complaint about your existing truck ? Did I miss it?

Bob - Padri gradisco scopare!

Yeah they are going to rake you over the coals. It does get better as you get older!

Nahhh, I have a large trustfund! No worries Oldsmoboi!

Well when I 1st saw the 1st production version of what Holden would use to create your car was 1993 in Germany. It was the Opel Omega B. Do you recognise it? Allbeit a 4 door, it is the ancestor of your Holden. I do believe this design was 1st penned in either late 89 or early 90, it was such a long time ago it's hard to remember. I do remember at that time Holden was nothing more than rebadged Toyotas, you know like the Holden Nova & Holden Apollo. Here is the exact list of their models and all their rebadges. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Holden_vehicles 1993 Then I see it again reborn as the 1995 Cadillac Catera. Then again Opel, aka:GM, gives it to Holden to use. I guess it's an ok car if you like cars that have a dated design and look like fat Chevy Cavaliers, like I've seen this since the early 90's. But to each their own. But to me this car and it's platform is old, they could have at least tried to make it look different on the outside, but alas it was not to be. Enjoy your Holden, I am enjoying my Pontiac.

Well I didn't know it was on Google, I just have a pic of my wife standing in front of it. I haven't had a reason to Google it. You must not know the right Italians.

What did you pay before, and where was it registered?

Not really, I can buy almost anything I want, when I want, for now the GXP suits my needs. Unlike you I will never buy Holden, their designs are to say the least uninspired. Look at that Monaro you're driving, it looks like a 2 door Catera to me, all Holden did was put a chevy engine in it! WOW! Mike Simcoe benchmarked the G8 against the last generation BMWs, that's why it looks so much like it. Why would I want a copy of a last generation BMW, when I can have the current version that is true BMW anytime I like? Talk about screws lose in your head, you bought a car that stylewise looks very early 90's. :rotflmao: To each their own, I hope you enjoy your Holden.

My wife and I went to Russia about 6 years ago on vacation. In one of the museums we visited, they had Rasputin's penis in a jar full of Fermaldehide on display. No wonder the Czarina Alexandra of Russia had him close by her side at all times. The man could have been an Honorary Italian, you know what I'm saying! :AH-HA_wink: I took a pic of it, I just have to find it.