§carlet §wordfish

Agreed, looks like it'd be a good Mini alternative.

...What? Anyway, the Prius C does nothing for me. I'd much rather have a Volt. Or anything else interesting the Big 3 might offer in the future. The Fiskers are aspirational, but I don't foresee myself being able to afford something like that.

Besides, my mobility is already severly limited by my budget. If anything an electric car would only increase my mobility by reducing my fuel costs.

In case you still didn't know after the five billion times it's been said, electric cars like the Volt and Fiskers have no limits to their mobility whatsoever.

Just because I don't want the same kind of car you like, doesn't me I think the cars you like should't exist. Why do you so hate the idea of freedom of choice in electric vehicles?

No, I want to have as much variety in electric cars available to me as there is in gas powered cars. FWD, RWD, full size, midsize, compact, sedans, coupes, roadsters, crossovers, pickups, econoboxes to ulrtra-luxes.

I see a bad moon rising.

I hope they find the resources to produce both.

Why? Why do you have to be such a dick about electirc cars? We all know you don't like them and you'd never want to drive one. Well I'd never want to drive some giant V8 RWD car. I'd like to own an electric car someday. Why are you so against there being cars that people like me want to drive?

No.

No. The idea that someone's mode of transportation is the defining aspect of their individuality is completely asinine, and I'm not going to let anyone here get away with that.

Gull wing doors? Excellent. I find Tesla's styling on the models S and X quite pleasant. They don't have a lot of surface detail, but they're nice shapes and nicely proportioned. The interaction of the character line and the fender arches on the X reminds me of the Focus though. The interior would be nice if it didn't have that giant shiny slab of a touchscreen taking up the entire center console.

That a Murano CrossCabriolet? Stylin'.

'57 Lincoln

That reminds me...I haven't taken a 'destination unknown' random drive in a long time...I always seem to be busy w/ life and have a specific destination in mind--the office, a restaurant, Starbucks, Target, etc. Haven't driven just for fun in ages.. Driving for just for its own sake is an alien concept to me. I can barely afford the gas it takes for my school commute. I drive with hypermiling techniques as much as is practically possible. If I were to go on a drive just for fun, I wouldn't have any fun because I'd be lamenting all the money I'd be wasting to get basically nowhere.

Happy birthday to you!

I drive 18 miles to school 3-4 days a week. But it certainly doesn't make me feel more individual or in touch with other people.

And driving your car to work every day isn't already conformist and isolationg?

I remember even as a wee child being put off by the MCE. We rented one of these for vacation that year.

If it weren't for the guillotine grille, I'd think this was a new Toyota Venza. Acura's new styling is not going well.

Do we even know for sure it will be a hatchback? This looks almost exactly the same as the mule for the Dart, which of course looked turned out to be a sedan, and looked completely different.

Wasn't me who downvoted your posts. And my posts were aimed at everyone, not you personally. I don't have a problem with anyone who's a fervent petrolhead, I mean who else is this website for? What really annoys me though is when some fervent petrolheads get all indignant towards people who don't really give a damn about cars, acting like that makes them some sort of soulless brainless communist sheeple or whatever other ridiculous epithet they care to apply to them. Just as it annoys me when non-car lovers get indignant towards car lovers and think they're sociopaths who are single-handedly ruining the environment. It's not "sad" that some people don't care about cars. It's perfectly normal to not care about cars. People will find other things to care about as times change. That doesn't make them wrong, nor does it make you wrong for not caring about the same things they do. Why is this so hard for some people to accept?

Well from this point on, when I refer to "cars," I mean cars as we know them today. It just baffles me that some people here can't accept that other people have greater priorities in their lives than their mode of transportation. Cars are not a quintessential part of human existence. Americans lived without them for over a century. Humanity has lived without them for millennia. Billions of people STILL live without them, and couldn't care less about what they're missing. When the complete history of humanity is written up, the internal combustion engine powered automobile will be nothing more than a footnote, a fad that lasted 100-odd years before people found some other gadget to obsess over. THINGS CHANGE, it's a fact of the universe. Nothing lasts forever. Enjoy what you have while you still have it, don't bitch about nobody else giving a f@#k someday.

Sorry if you misunderstood me, I was referring to manually-operated cars like we've had for six score years. Self-driving cars will probably become very common in the next century, much as everyone here will hate to admit it. I'm having a hard time caring anymore.

Guys, in a century, cars are going to be about as common as horse-drawn carriages are now. And they'll have the same romanticism associated with them. There will always be people who like to drive, but it's incredibly naîve to believe that the motor car is the pinnacle of personal transportation.