Robert Hall

The early Colonnades looked better from the rear than the later ones, I like the tight fit rear bumpers of the '73 Olds and Buick...they had the best rears. IMO.. Never liked the dual round headlight front ends--just looked like cheapassery considering the A-bodies always had quad headlights from '64-72 (except for the weak '71-72 Chevelle front). They would have looked better w/ quad headlights, IMO. But I do like the front ends of the Grand Am and Laguna, despite the dual headlights. My favorite of the late Colonnades are probably the '76-77 Cutlass Supreme and Cutlass S/442 (like the sloped front end) and '77 Pontiac Can Am...I like the horizontal quad rectangular lights these had more than the stacked rectangular quads some models had.

Dealers that pull those stunts should lose their franchise, have their inventories seized and returned to the manufacturers, and buildings bulldozed. Make them hurt.

Always liked the ‘Tubthumping’ song. And the Park Avenue Ultra. Never thought I’d see them mentioned in the same post.

Maybe it's more about fitting w/ their existing naming scheme. Encore, Envision, Enclave, Electra...it fits. Since GM is calling their EV technology 'Ultium', Buick could revive the 'Ultra' trim for the EVs.... Encore Ultra, Envision Ultra, Elclave Ultra..that could work. It's going to be interesting to see what is to come over the next few years, and how GM differentiates their new EV models across the brands.

Electra also fits with their 'e' naming scheme...I assume they will make EV-versions of the Encore, Envision and Enclave eventually... Different naming schemes for different brands...marketing stuff.. at least Cadillac is creating new names and identities rather than tacking on 'EV-series' with something like XT5-EV, CT5-EV which would have been obvious..(though it sounds like they may do something like that w/ an EV Escalade eventually?) And Chevy could use 'ChEVy' and 'ChEVrolet'

I just don't see people nostalgic for Grandpa's car from decades ago will drive sales of something new and very different. The name fits with EV without the nostalgia...'Electra' connotes 'electric', 'EV', etc...

I don't see Buick doing a nostalgia or retro play w/ the name, though..

Electra makes sense...it's one of those names that fits perfectly w/ an EV, like Bolt and Volt..so why not use it? Better than some alphanumeric nonsense like Buick X12L-e or something...

And it's white and black..unoriginal and so boring of a color choice. Doesn't have a bold grille like Chrysler is known for, could be anything...vaguely Volvo/Polestar in profile. Is it a sedan? a hatchback? maybe. Interior looks decent, though.

Update from last year..still watching most above from 18 months ago, also watching more of the Wichita Mafia channels—- Car Ninja 100 % Jake Elliott Alvis out of Chicago, Legit Street Cars. I’ve enjoyed the 6 series of episodes of Car Trek—Ed Bolian of VINwiki (best voice on You Tube), Tyler Hoover (Hoovie’s Garage) and Freddy ‘Tavarish’ Hernandez. Kind of a Top Gear/Grand Tour ripoff, better than the US Top Gear. Another one I watch occasionally is Life of Lind—guy on the Colorado prairie fixing up old RVs, buses and old trucks.

It’s funny that Buick has a much lower ATP than Chevy…it’s now GM’s bargain brand. Obviously because they don’t have the full size BOF SUVs and trucks. Crazy numbers.

With the demise of most of their car lines in the shift to CUVs/SUVs and trucks, I'd assume the ATP now is considerably higher than it was 5 years ago for both brands.

A search locally turned up a couple 2012-2014 Camry Hybrids around $10k with 130-165k miles, and one 2008 Hybrid with a little over 100k miles. The lowest mileage seems to be a 2005 w/ only 59k for $9999.

^ The Avanti was definitely a unique design..didn't really care for the front, but love the back window..

It's been going on a while, but the used car market is hot. Late model low mileage cars are commanding a premium. It's interesting, I did a search in NE Ohio on Auto Trader and found several 2014-2016 Grand Cherokee Limiteds with under 60k miles all priced within 2-3k of what I paid for my 2014 with 25k in March 2017... one example--a 2014 w/ 57k miles (more miles than I have now and a slightly lower spec) is within $1000 of what I paid for my 2014 in 2017 w/ 25k miles... depreciation seems to have been slowed...

Saw a really clean early '80s Buick Electra Park Avenue at the grocery... white w/ a dark red top and dark red interior.. always liked the styling of those cars. Looked so classy parked amidst the boring modern generic transportation units...

IIRC, I flew BA 747s out of Denver once, Phoenix once...then the other three trips across the pond in the 00s were on BA 777s out of Phoenix... if I were to do it now (I really want to get back to Blighty, go out to Cornwall and Devon, up to Northumberland), I'll probably have to drive to Pittsburgh or Detroit to fly direct (I don't like connecting flights).

Following on from @oldshurst442, more beautiful E-body Mopies...'71 Challengers this time..love the styling of these cars. More Mopies...my favorite B-body muscle cars--the '71 Plymouth Road Runner and GTX...love the fuselage styling. Something about the early 70s muscle car aesthetic has captivated me since I was a kid...love the wings and scoops, and stripes..

The blue one looks a new FJ Cruiser..that looks interesting, along w/ the sports cars.

Considering GM has been building and selling trucks in cold climates for over 100 years, I'm sure they have done their homework and developed these products to perform under a variety of conditions. This is a large car company, not some tiny startup...

One of those big Russki jets sat for years at DIA, used to see when landing in the 00s...never knew why it was there.

My big 3 mainstay cuisines are American, Italian and Mexican. But there are plenty other cuisines I enjoy, esp Asian cuisines such as Indian, Thai, Chinese and Vietnamese. And other European such as French, German (too many sausages, though) and Spanish…

IIRC, I've flown on 747s to the UK a couple of times on British Airways, and a couple times to Hawaii on United or American. It's been a while, but I remember I felt they were more spacious than other trans-ocean planes I've been on. I do miss travel, don't miss airports and crowds, though. I just don't feel comfortable spending hours in a tin can w/ plague-infested masses. But I really need to get back out West sometime in the next year...

I had heard a while back about a new I6 planned for the GC and Wrangler...if they are doing away w/ V8s they will need a beefier V6 or I6 for Ram and the Wag/GWag. I'd love to see a modern I6 for Jeep, always liked the old 4.0 my WJ had. It will be interesting to see what they do, the powertrains in the new WL GC and the Wag/GWag are carryover.. And the food..I love Greek and Italian cuisine...it's hard to beat Italian for cold weather comfort food...

I remember that chain. They were shutting down in the late 70s, when I was still a little kid..but I can remember seeing one in WIntersville, Oh near where I lived then... I don't know if my Dad bought any thing from them, he wore suits and ties to work every day (school superintendent) and had his suits custom made at a local small town tailor. Back when I worked in a cubicle, I shopped at JC Penney and The Men's Warehouse for business casual/business formal wear. Haven't dressed up to go anywhere in almost 2 years of pandemic staying at home...I miss getting dressed up to go to a nice restaurant or the symphony or other things I did in the before time...