balthazar

Perhaps a ‘I just love this vehicle for no obvious reason’ thread is in order. Seriously; anyone can love anything, and they do. ‘Appreciate’ and ‘love’ are fine. The qualifier here is supposedly ‘beautiful’. Subjectivity not withstanding, when a ‘74 Monaco police car is dubbed ‘beautiful’, one wonders if there is any ‘line’ at all.

Perhaps a 'Malaise Appreciation' thread is in order...

I would welcome seeing some testing data on 'x weight on 4 tires does this, y-weight on 4 tires does this' sort of examination. Because I never have, and everything I'd read that mentions it in tangent seems to be merely assuming. An empty tractor-trailer weighs less PER TIRE than a Rivian R1T. (35,000 / 18) Tractor-trailers also cannot drift or turn sharply, practices that cause more damage than just conventional, mostly-forward driving ever does.

Now I'm really confused.

80 additional miles range for ten grand is a horrible, horrible deal. >>"The R1T's bed is a foot shorter, but it's meant more for hauling camping equipment than lumber."<< Newsflash, MSN; 5.5' isn't meant for hauling lumber, either. - - - - - It's going to be interesting to see how states figure out the road taxing on BE's, seems the R1T weighs 8400 lbs. I expect some real sticker-shock registration fees are a-comin'.

More sustainable recycling :

^ How is it supposed to work?

Another strain on the low-budget vehicle shopper.

It's 2021; surely you're aware that labels transcend ALL.

But most are :

In this day & age, I would assume all or almost all of those were spoken for.

That’s probably a $5K piece of glass to replace.

They don’t have to be old to be ‘beautiful’; just look to the last pic I posted.

I liken it to music; theres stuff I fully acknowledge is appealing, technically professional and has mass appeal. Let’s throw in Elton John’s ‘benny & the jets’… but I hate that song. Switch it off immediately if I can. Call it a conscious recognition of personal opinion vs. ‘recognized industry standards’ if you want. ’65-ish GMC above is cool, tough, nothing stylistically ‘wrong’ or awkward…. I like it just fine…. but it’s not a ‘beautiful’ design by any legitimate criteria. It has no ‘art’ or passion in it’s design.

A daisy is a flower but a flower is not necessarily a daisy.

Except, car or truck; there’s nothing ‘beautiful’ about that truck- it just ‘is’. could rename the thread ‘just stuff I like’…

Bloomberg is reporting that Rivian is going to prioritize production of vans for Amazon over pickups, so combining 1. startup, 2. chip shortages, and 3. this news, don't expect much in the way of Rivian inventory/availability for a few years.

Very subaruesque. I wasn't aware the Passport was still in production. I haven't noticed any on the road in years. Pilots, I see.

Ugh.

That's why I always use both numbers together (and actually add them). I agree that OEMs could position the front in different spots, but unless they're moving the seats between measuring front & rear... the total number should be reliable.

Rivian is pretty close to his Suburban, but I'll bet the Rivian feels way tighter. Escalade is 44.5 / 41.7 - the winner is still the crew cab pick-up.

I prefer the G6 tho obviously they were 'cast from the same mold'. Olds has some slight funkiness to it IMO; tails a bit oversized, and the front clip feels slightly undersized vs. the rear clip. G6 is more harmonious to me, and I really like the belt line curve.