Camino LS6

At which point, the additional variables of how much VE production speeds the process and plant choice come into play.

My ideas about 40th Ann. cars does not depend upon production being underway. I would not be a bit surprised if pre-production cars are actually used for this purpose.

I think what has me holding out hope for the ealier scenario most is the fact that the VE Holdens are set to debut this year. To be fair, I remember mention that these cars will not be exactly the same as GMNA's Zeta buta great deal of commonality will be there. So, the question becomes what effect does all of that development have on the "usual" timeframe required to get a car to production?

OK, I'll accept this at face value. Do my notions about seeing a production spec car at NAIAS seem likely to you?

Apparently, the complications of maintaining the AH-HA identity demanded the change as his own site has been taken down. AFAIK, this is not a direct result of his experiences here on C&G.

I'd like some feedback on this notion of mine, without any sniping at each other about accuracy. This is heavily based on a feeling I get that GM has some tricks up its sleeve regarding Camaro. I realize that some well-informed members here have reason to believe that this scenario is impossible and it may well be. Never the less: This is what I think we'll see: A production version of Camaro at NAIAS in January '07 A fleet of pre-production/production spec Camaros at major auto events all through '07. I believe these cars will wear 40th anniversary colors and be considered '07 models. One will pace Indy. The cars will have a pedigree with a history of their promotional tour much like the first SSRs did. Some of these cars will find their way to private owners eventually. If GM can find any way to do it, I expect to see a few regular production '07s with full-scale production of '08s starting late in '07 or early in '08.

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Gobs of history(ever hear of Hamburger oil pans?). Sadly though, SLP Engineering(second sticker modding of new cars) is a thing of the past. It no longer exists and won't be building anything. SLP Performance Parts is still in operation and will continue to offer goodies for us all.

We'll be seeing the production VEs from Holden very soon. That should answer some questions.

I imagine walking the thin line has gotten old once or twice. :AH-HA_wink: Had to use "your" wink in this post. Onward and upward, goodbye and good luck. -Camino

My thoughts exactly,91. this thread is done.

91 Z outlines the situation accurately. Let the fights and personal attacks cease and the debate continue.

I know you have information that supports what you believe to be fact and I respect that. However, speculative posts are hardly "spam", they are enthusiasts doing what they come here to do: speak their minds. As I said before, time will tell and we will all know. Just give the folks some space to speculate, divine, and opine - it is one of the reasons we all come to a site like this. Everyone is entitled to be heard, right or wrong. On the topic at hand, there appear to be two camps of people in the loop that disagree with one another. This being the case, the rest of the online community will gravitate to one position or the other. All that we, the staff of C&G, ask is that the debate proceed in a respectful and civil fashion.

The decline of Empire.

This is what I think we'll see: A production version of Camaro at NAIAS in January '07 A fleet of pre-production/production spec Camaros at major auto events all through '07. I believe these cars will wear 40th anniversary colors and be considered '07 models. One will pace Indy. The cars will have a pedigree with a history of their promotional tour much like the first SSRs did. Some of these cars will find their way to private owners eventually. If GM can find any way to do it, I expect to see a few regular production '07s with full-scale production of '08s starting late in '07 or early in '08.

Let's keep this civil, shall we? We have differing opinions and different sources and different information - let's just accept that. By all means express your position on this, but let others do the same without petty attacks. Time will tell who has the right of things.

*sigh*

Too many to choose from. Duramax/allison is an unbeatable combo 350/TH350 bulletproof in the extreme LS5 454/ M-22 LSx/ T-56

Looks like that deal is off - I made a call and the word is it aint happening. Hope this changes.

True enough.

Sterlings.

This is fast becoming priority one for us.

The 69 '69 ZL1s were most definitely prodution, just COPO rather than RPO as were all 427 Camaros. The 4th gen ZL1s were not production, they were built by GMMG on 2002 B4C cars.