Turbojett

Well, they promised not to mix any Ferrari DNA with Chrysler, but Alfa Romeo is not a bad alternative:

well, it does fit your criteria. It's just a shame that this alone couldn't save Pontiac.

Oh really? In 4 years you guys will be comparing the Dart unfavorably with its replacement and calling it a POS. No thanks. Pontiac should have stayed Firebird-GTO-Solstice-G8... (and marketed properly)... these will be remembered fondly 20 years later... which is like Dodge with only the Viper, Charger and Challenger. I'd have to disagree. we knew the Caliber was crap when it came out because it was a (bad) attempt at making a mini Magnum. We knew it was ugly. That's why it didn't sell. We knew the Sunfire and Grand Am weren't going to sell. we were all disappointed/frustrated when the G6 came out looking incredibly boring and nothing like the concept. We do however know what the Giulietta is like it's been tested by several media outlets; it's gotten favorable reviews. We do know that this is an arguably attractive design (As opposed to the Caliber which is arguably NOT), that is similar to another car (Charger) that has a measure of attractiveness. Look at a Charger. Sure, it's not a '62 Ferrari 250 GT, or a Jaguar E-Type but yet at the same time one is drawn to it because it has its own visual appeal. The Dart borrows some of that, and then struts its own stuff. true we don't know if the Dart will turn out to be a total piece, but it looks far more promising than any Caliberneonshadow that came before it. Compared to its predecessors, you see my point on the Dart, don't you? Producing ONLY Firebird/G8/Solstice/GTO would not have been a viable alternative for Pontiac. That would have made it too niche, and would have seriously hurt its sales chances, especially if it's limited to sports cars like this (which, don't forget, tend to be rather expensive). Pontiac needed viable mainstream vehicles to keep it afloat. The problem is they could have made a compact and small-midsizer that could still be sporty instead of just "look" sporty and just be a crappy Aveo underneath (and just barely underneath, remember?) Pontiac could have made competitive product that could be mainstream and affordable, but they didn't because: ..bombshell.. GM didn't give a $h!. they thought they were invincible. They thought they could sell subpar product and stay on top of the heap forever and ever. but then when it hit the fan, their countermeasures were too little too late. this is why we don't have a Pontiac anymore. And I'm hardly a new-car fanboy. I'll point out for instance, that I still own an almost seven year old Cobalt (that I baby to death, mind you) and dislike Cruzes. I still own a 15 year old Camaro, and while i still want a new one, I'm not willing to give up my old one (It's like my firstborn son).

(Renault) Alpine Nearly every Ferrari--Maranello, Modena, Fiorano, Italia, (Super)America... Chevy Monza

dammit, Dodge is becoming what Pontiac should have been.

We all knew this was coming. Doesn't make me any less excited.

"those two months are sure to feel like forever" ...no kidding. April needs to hurry it up.

Also in Chicago, IIRC the White Sox are White/black (no red though)

Ha, how do you mean? I'm not sure, but it seems like the pattern of the larger rotors chopping would get to me more than the constant din of an airplane engine. i dunno though, maybe i could learn to drown either one out. but I'd still like to learn a small light plane. I doubt it would bother you. And don't forget, you've always got a headset on. true.

Tundra? That name was already taken by Mazda: the RX3 was a trim level of the first generation Mazda Savanna (less the H; there were piston-engined versions of the Savanna), and later, it reappeared as the home market fore-name of the first two generations of RX7. (in case you were wondering, the third generation RX7 was called Efini, which is a Japanization of the word infinity; which had previously been a trim level on the FC Savanna RX7.)

you would think that there would be more protection on frame members that are in front of the seats rather than the centerline of the car itself. If that car had a front passenger, there'd likely be nothing left of them.

Ha, how do you mean? I'm not sure, but it seems like the pattern of the larger rotors chopping would get to me more than the constant din of an airplane engine. i dunno though, maybe i could learn to drown either one out. but I'd still like to learn a small light plane.

lookin like a fool with your Buicks on the ground. okay, okay, okay, i have to go bat my head against a wall now.

jeesh. sheared the damn thing nearly in half.

Man, I want to learn how to fly a small airplane now. I don't think I could do a helicopter though, the rotors would drive me nuts. Next time, just carry some fireworks with you to throw the SAMs off.

hmph. we could have had a Lotus Seven before there even was a Lotus Seven.

that. is. HOT.

I actually found the first season of Batman Beyond at Wal-Mart the other day. Between this and that Star-Trek reference earlier, I believe I have exceeded my daily quota of geektitude. (and i don't caaaarrrrre!!! )

Belated birthday wishes just means the party's still goin'!

buon compleanno, fratello

I don't really think they were ugly. different, certainly, but not ugly.

wow. I get that reference. thanks for making me feel nerdy.

yay for rediculously long names! Sounds like a helluva project. I'll have to file the plans next to my idea to build a RWD Cobalt drift car using the rear end from a Solstice and a regeared transaxle/transfer case from an Equinox.

bummer. I liked that concept. even though it got Elton John stuck in my head for days.

I want the Matchbox GT/CS, but I've only seen it in the 10-pack, and I don't want to buy all that just for one car.