Robert Hall

Isn't your GMC like 6500lbs??

It will be interesting to see how GM's competitor weighs...the Blazer BEV or Equinox BEV or whatever...I can't imagine it will weigh less. I don't think they will be as obese as the Hummer or Silverado EVs, but I don't think they will be as light as the ICE versions...

It is quite a busy design...but it is pretty light weight as far as BEV CUVs go. the 4 target values make for some interesting marketing-speak.

My family farmhouse was built in 1859, has the names of the builders or original owners carved in the sandstone over the front door...will have to take a pic of some of the details.

I only have a 36 inch inseam w/ 38 waist, 6'0"...in most vehicles, I find I have to have the seat all the way back, reclined a bit, and raised up off the floor because I like to see over the dash..but not so high my head hits the ceiling. Old cars without seat height or backrest adjustment and lack of steering column tilt/telescope can be a pain to get comfortable in.

For car-style EVs, yes, I could see the battery pack resulting in less footroom/floorspace than an ICE car of similar size...but for truckular BOF EVs like the Lightning, Hummer, and Silverado EV, the body sits on top of the frame like on a real truck and the battery pack is within the frame under the floor? So in theory, truckular EVs could have a pretty flat floor w/ no center hump...

Yeah, great role...I liked him in 'Accidental Tourist' and 'Broadcast News' also. A recent small part in the show 'Goliath' was very good also. Another good small role in a movie was in 'A History of Violence'.

^Yeah, I've never had a reason to have my legs in the center..not sitting cross-legged on the floor doing yoga. Without a trans/exhaust tunnel maybe more room in the center for storage. Can always use more cubbies.. Like a BOF truck or SUV..the cab sits on top of the frame..I assume the Ford Lightning is like this..

Yeah, always wondered how people parallel parked some of the cars in the ancient world...tiny rear window at a angle, no passenger side mirror, tiny driver's side mirror..I guess they parked by feel...stop when you bump into another car..

After about 9 hrs of driving yesterday (went to an Aunt's funeral in KY), I'm exhausted...slept in until 9-ish, got up, cold, snowing... yay....looking forward to Spring.

Not looking forward to the weather this weekend. Got around 200 miles roundtrip planned for this afternoon and 500+ roundtrip tomorrow. And it's supposed to snow all along the route. Just tired...looking forward to Spring..

Looks interesting..certainly has taken a long time...hasn't VW teased a modern retro styled bus for a couple decades now, even before announcing it being an EV? I seem to remember one or more concepts quite a while ago...(the EV concept version of this was 5 years ago!). Anyway, it should have the market to itself..no one else is doing a retro styled BEV van. (imagine GM building a new Dustbuster BEV van or Ford a new Aerostar BEV...could be fun!)

Yeah, that's just an MCE for the Ice version.

So thick (thicc?) with weird details and blingage. Like why the weird slots between the hood and grille trim?

I noticed when I filled up yesterday that diesel was $4.59/gallon here in my area. I noticed gas prices hit $4.12/gallon for unleaded in Phoenix this week...I can't recall what the prices were back in summer/fall 2008 when I was living there and prices went up...but the cars I was driving then were way worse in the gas mileage than my current Jeep.

And generally turbo 4s aren't known for their longevity and reliability, aren't they? More stress...maybe I'm old school, but I still view 4s as something for small entry-level subcompacts and compacts, and some small sports cars...not something aspirational or worthy of being in a luxury car brand, IMO. If I'm buying a luxury car, I'd want a 6 or a V8, not a plebeian 4 cyl..

At least it has some chrome to offset the ugly...better than the nasty work truck versions w/ all the black.. These trucks are so thick and tall today. Visually, I think they would look better with maybe 4-6 inches sectioned from them. The obesity makes the classic GMT-400 and older generations look clean and svelte.

Hmmm...moar chrome, and different gills.. looks like they integrated the bumper with the fender cleanly, rather than that weird gap for the gills previously...not sure why they put the bowtie up so high, looks better in the center of the grille, IMO..

I remember both of those songs and the Cold War mid 80s era...still relevant today.

I would also, since I loathe 4 cyl engines.

I guess we are living in the 'new normal'... reality is complex. I know lots of people are grousing about gas prices, it is what it is...paid $3.75/gallon for unleaded last weekend. I'm getting an average of 23.x mpg...been driving an extra 200-400 miles every weekend the last 3 weeks, probably will be for the foreseeable future (going back and forth to my farm). The Jeep has been great in mud setting and 4wheel low on the farm, but I kinda wish I had an old 4x4 truck out there...something I wouldn't mind getting scratches from bramble and tree branches and to haul in and out junk. Edit: filled up today, $3.99/ gallon. $75 tank full. Ready for the weekend

In olden days, GM had two near-luxury (what we call premium today?) brands that overlapped--Buick and Oldsmobile. Though the differences over time seemed to be mainly superficial styling details (grilles and taillights mostly by the 80s)...they always seemed to be two sides of the same coin to me.

I have a couple, and I think it's also for arguing w/ mr Blu...

Neat...my high school had auto shop classes, but I was on the college prep/AP track and couldn't take them.

Kia and Hyundai each seem to have a vertical ladder within each brand...both have cheap entry level cars and CUVs, but also semi-premium Buick/GMC-ish larger sedans and CUVs....each brand has a spectrum (though they both have cut their largest most premium sedans). Kia seems a bit more premium in some of their models? They seems to have a lot of interchangeable models that seem to differ only in styling between the brands. The Stinger and Velociter are a couple models that seem to stand out from the generic stuff..