Satty

How is this like comparing a Tacoma and Silverado? The Genesis Coupe and Camaro actually compete with one another and, whether you like it or not, they're going to be compared to each other. The Tacoma is, size and price-wise, competition for the Colorado, if you can show me any comparison between the Tacoma and Silverado, I'd love to see it. I could see your issue if the Genesis Coupe were FWD, but it isn't. Its a RWD V6 coupe, just like the base Camaro. Not MT's fault the Camaro is 8 inches longer, 2 inches wider and 300 pounds heavier.

The probably wanted to test the first V6 Camaro GM could get them. People really need to quit looking for media bias when its GM's fault a car has shortcomings.

Ummm.....the Camaro has less hp (ok, only 2 but still) and weighs some 300 pounds more. Did anyone think that might effect performance? Not just straight line, but handling as well.

Interesting.....

36 seconds left, looks bleak for the Bulls, but this has been one hell of a series.

Find some random colored body panels and make a Harlequin Cobalt.

I'm thinking some people need to take this to heart: God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference. And maybe tack on something about having a sense of humor.

I'd be thrilled with the next Ben Folds, but for now I'm just happy he doesn't pound on the keys like a spastic retard.

Good news, bad news The new engine was installed yesterday, it apparently fires up and sounds great. The bad news? The doors and hood still need to be re-installed, I'm not going to be able to get up there to do it myself for at least a week and the guys who put the engine in are busy too.

You're just mad I didn't ask you first.

10 years from now, only a few diehards will still be lamenting the loss of Pontiac, the same way only a few diehards still lament the loss of Oldsmobile or Plymouth or Eagle. $h!. It happens. The world continues to turn.

It would make far more sense for GM to use Holden to plug Buick and Chevy than to try to give that volume to an independent group of amateurs.

Why would GM want to continue to produce and develop cars for a brand they have made pretty clear they dont want to continue to produce and develop? It makes zero sense for GM to even consider this, unless these nameless investors have deep enough pockets to cover all the money GM would have to put into engineering and certifying these cars.

Maybe they can slap the Challenger name on the Panda.

Sweet, I'm a slut.

Unless this "group of investors" is Ford Motor Company (or Honda, or Chery, etc), they wont have the resources to do any sort of development or production, so what exactly would they be able to do other than delay the inevitable for a few months?

Wanna go makeout in the bathroom?

Toyota sold more Camrys in April than Chrysler has sold Avengers and Sebrings this year. And its actually not even close. Dakota=LOL

Dont blame ya, C&G has been pretty much divided between two camps for a while now. The Pontiac circle jerk and the non-Pontiac circle jerk, so its not like you'll be missing a whole lot if you dont hang out here as much. Oh Fly, where art thou?

But Opel is the worst thing on earth, C&G told me so.

So they could continue to build cars and pay outrageous union wages to workers for another company to compete with what GM is offering at BG dealers? GM wouldn't benefit from this at all.

I suggested one of these to replace the Prius. She just laughed. But she didn't say no, so I have something I can cling to.

headache He's actually not bad for being 2, better than my 8 year old nephew, but its still irritating.

http://www.notgonnahappen.net It makes no sense for GM. They sell the name to a group that doesn't have the money to design or build their own vehicles? Thats a recipe for disaster on both sides. In no time "Pontiac" would be bankrupt (how many independant, 1-line automakers survive in the U.S.?) and GM would be stuck with the cars they built for a brand they didn't want to keep and didn't but any work into updating or replacing.

Park and walk inside? Usually goes quicker anyways.