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and you have drivin the new civic? or are you just guessing? and of course you are basing the reliability of a new engine on a completely unrelating engine?

looks alot like a minivan to me.

I think the G6 has a great interior. I'm going to go with the perception difference as the main thing. Every manufacturer makes good cars and bad cars. There are just alot of people out there especially in the media who can't come to terms with a japanese car that is a dud or an american car that is excellent.

Cobalt. Exterior looks much better. The spoiler could definitely go but the overal design is much more "sporty" and aggressive than the civic. The civic looks like a mutated Ion...which they actually managed to make look worse. The civic interior is downright nasty. The design is horrible and I wouldn't put much stock in the "higher quality" thing...the same thing has been said about the RSX and yea...that one is anything but.

Wow is that interior nasty.

I'm pretty sure but not positive that this article is old.

[/QUOTE] And echoing on Flybrian's comment, has any other country offered to help us or even sent us their condolences? I haven't heard of anything. When they are suffering, we are the first ones to lend a hand...but when the roles are reversed, they are nowhere to be found. It makes me sick. [QUOTE] Venezuela has http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1450652.htm Of course we aren't supposed to "like" them.

$3.20 a gallon for regular here. Rising gas prices are really just a catalyst for change. We should have been investing in renewable alternative energy sources decades ago. Far too many people believe the "age of oil" was never going to end. Anyone outside the oil industry will tell you that oil production will peak by 2010 if it hasn't already...while demand certainly isn't slowing.

Around here the standard is at least 4K off anything but the Hemi. Usually that is 1-2K off.

Gotta love having a 4 banger

Unions should be more concerned about job security than pay. What's more important? Having a decent paying job with good job security or a better paying one where you could be abruptly laid off. Yes, everyone and their brother knows the real problem lies in the ridiculously rising price of oil and healthcare. Guess what, its a problem that everyone in the economy is facing...so nobody is going to feel sympathetic about unions. I could go into politics and say what our government should be doing, but I really am not going to go there.

Nope, it is a NS. A supercharged 4.4L

Futuristic is a good word for it. I'm not so sure thats what Civic drivers really want. The interior certainly is not better than anything in its class...exterior styling is an improvement (which isn't saying much) but it may be too "out there" for the average import buyer. Of course what do I know...they do buy elements and Scions.

I find it funny that the 3.3L V6 (the most powerful Camry engine at the moment) is now outpowered by the base engine in the Impala...and gets worse mileage to boot.

It's pretty ugly...the interior looks busy and most of it just screams cheap.