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I'm not surpised that our companies are dying. Things like this should never even be suggested, let alone actually becoming part of the contract. Work for 23 years, then get paid for 45 more? At $30, thats more like $90 an hour per hour worked in their life. Thats an easy way to kill a company.

Inventories have to be low to stop the 50% off discounts GM has been needing to sell cars. GM could produce a ton more cars. But then they would need to sell them for 75% off or they would have nowhere to put them. Make less, sell higher, close plants, make money. GM has been overproducing for a long time, and advertising the deal, and rebate, and employee pricing, and its killing their image. They need to make 1 less than their is demand for, at MSRP. That will mean closing alot of plants at this time. If GM were allowed to close plants, GM could make money, and reinvest into making better cars. It's business.

It's not the governments problem if our companies are at a competitive disadvantage due to unfair trade? All I'm asking for is a level playing field. Japan may not have the biggest market, but there are still 4.5 million cars sold there, where only Japanese companies are allowed to sell them there. Why should it be GMs problem that our government allows that to happen, and lets them come here and control our market freely? Free trade is supposed to benefit both countries, right now, it only benefits one, and hurts the other.

Those same workers are putting the nails in GMs coffin now. They are sitting home and getting paid for it from the job banks. They are making GM unflexible compared to new competitors. They wont allow GM to close plants, and trim excess inventory because they will be paid either way. No one is owed anything, thats the whole point. They were given a job, that feeds their families, and buys them everything they want. But thats not enough. They are resisting the changes that our companies need to survive. At the current rate, our companies will not survive.

The 4 cyl is the only thing keeping me from going to buy a Solstice right now. I can buy a used Vette with low miles for $18,000, with 350hp great sounding V8. For $2,000 more I can get a Solstice with a 177hp 4cyl that will sound like rice. I'll take the Vette. A V8 Solstice or Sky would change my decision in a heartbeat.

I doubt BMW press releases say the auto trans are sourced from GM either.

Translation: The Solstice sucks, why? Because its a Pontiac. If it was one of our American owned British companies like Jaguar, we would love it, but it's a Pontiac, so it sucks. Thats what I got out of the articles. Useless reviews.

The sad part is, our govt will wait until it is too late. It is already becoming too late, yet nothing is being done, and it doesn't seem they are planning to do anything either. Competition is great, when its fair. Toyota doesnt even have to try anymore, and their sales will keep rising, and profits keep growing.

GM had double digit increases for the past 3 months with employee pricing. What did everyone expect to happen when it stopped?

Looks like they forgot how to design a grille too. I really wish I hadnt seen that picture. Are they trying to make people hate Pontiac just so they can kill the brand?

The front is very ugly. Big step backwards

I agree. That looks amazing, and I dont even like the HHR. It looks much better than the Nomad too.

I agree its going to be bad. It's what your left with at the end that matters most. GM has been expecting this, and I believe they have been planning for it. Selling GMAC? Selling Subaru? GM knows its gonna be long and tough. Personally, I dont think GM is against Miller's actions.

I cant speak for him, but I'm happy with the direction my life is going. If your not, get a better job then. I would like if GM had the money to make better cars, and I'm sure the 93% non-union population would like that too. Why is it, that every union employer is struggling? Why is it, the companies posting the biggest profits, and growing their businesses, are non union? Why is the population becoming increasingly non union?

That was hilarious. We would not have the worlds largest economy, if you were running things. Wheres the incentive to move up? Theres forklift operators making more than $80,000 a year. Why be CEO when you can have no responability at all? Why go to college? We can all be grunt workers and ship everything to China, while they are making all the money. We can all be doing the dirty work, while China and Japan take all the high tech jobs. We can become the country of the uneducated. Your ideas would have killed this country before it even started. We all have opportunities to advance in America. It's no one elses fault but your own if you dont. If you cant get smart enough to do more than a factory job, dont blame us who are. I would rather have America be developing new technologies, and inventing new things, then screwing together the stuff Japan invents.

I'm pretty sure he meant no matter what, even with the company thriving. I'm not saying they should be paid millions when the company is on the verge of collapsing. I can see reducing their pay to $80,000 until the company is profitable again, but not permanently. CEOs and other top positions dont just sit around all day doing nothing in their office. Usually, their life revolves around their job. They take work home with them. They are not just putting in their hours and calling it a day.

Wow, just wow. I sure as hell wouldnt take the task of running a company with over 300,000 employees for $80,000 a year. The whole point of working harder to get to the top is to make more money. If it were up to you, you would be more rewarded for not going to school, and staying in the plants. Every capitalist that helped build this country into what it is must be turning in their graves with that comment. How about we take all your money and give it to people working at McDonalds, because they cant afford to pay their rent off $5.15 an hour?

DPH also secured a $4.5B financial package from JPMorgan Chase and Citigroup Global Markets Inc. Good news :)

Our companies need a cost structure that can compete with other countries companies. If they get the cost structure they need, they can stay here. Overpaying the workers is what is forcing our companies overseas.

And if we dont get my way they wont be wearing any at all.

That has absolutely nothing to do with how much they are making. The more you make, the more you spend. Maybe if they tried saving a little, instead of buying new cars every year, and owning the biggest house they could find, they wouldnt have a problem. Theres people out there that are not on the verge of bankrupcy, that are making half what the aveage UAW worker makes. You want to hold CEOs responsible? How about some personal responsibility to go along with that?

Except they will be expensive "panties" after they will be taxed. Then how much more will the UAW workers need to be paid for some new ones?

What will that accomplish other than losing $28 billion in revenue?

Razoredge, I'm still waiting for your solution. Keep paying the workers their wages, while losing billions of dollars? They wont have those jobs or pensions very long at that rate. I see a lose lose situation, but I would still rather keep our American companies here in America. At their current pace, the workers will be out of jobs and pensions, and there will be no DPH in the US either. I'd rather save one than lose both. Your talking ideal situations, but DPH is no where near an ideal situation. No concessions=no profits=no company.