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I was going for a run and came across a small little car show/meet. @oldshurst442 seen’t a 442 and thought if ya! There was even something electric for @David! Buuut I don’t think he could fit..??

Can we vote people off the island?

I LOVE how jacked you guys got knowing your arch nemesis has helped fund medical research.

This is one hawt tag team

1. Not trolling 2.

You're going to go the route that some other doctor could just take his place? You're probably right and it's just that simple. This probably belongs in a different thread as it's quite irrelevant to vaccinations.

The whole anti-Musk crew is out today!

Without his funding, he's not doing the research. But I do agree that the doctors themselves deserve the credit. They don't do it for free though. Irrelevant to this thread, but Okay.

Or maybe thank/support him for supporting covid/medical research...

One of the doctors in that study is supported by the Musk Foundation. ...If only he would stick to building cars...

Hahaha pretty spot on with the description there!

That's disappointing but also understandable for a couple low-volume vehicles.

I think the white looks sharp but I wouldn't want all black.

For ground-up built EVs, that's a pretty big mistake, imo. I can't imagine they didn't have "much deep thinking yet" on a frunk. The Silverado EV has one so it isn't like GM just had blinders on and weren't looking at the rest of the industry. As somebody once said, "that is a total failure!"

It has a 3.9L V8 (had to look it up because I knew it had something unique). 241.9cu/3950cc. 252hp/267tq for 2002 and then up to 280hp/286tq in 03-05. I'd assume this is the same V8 that went in the Lincoln LS. I actually think these have aged quite well. I wasn't much of a fan back when they came out but I think that looks pretty decent now. It's been awhile since I've seen on.

For something that looks pretty dang good overall, I can’t understand why they didn’t engineer a frunk into it. That’s one of the biggest advantages of an EV and they excluded it.

Might as well actually quote me... As Some 2021 Ford Bronco V-6 Engines Fail, NHTSA Gets Involved https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021-ford-bronco-2-7-liter-engine-valve-troubles/ Ford Recalls Escape, Fusion, Edge, C-Max, Transit Connect Because They Could Roll Away https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40300779/ford-recall-escape-fusion-edge-c-max-transit-connect/

20 may be an exaggeration but it isn't by much. There are 5 pieces just for the lighting elements. I'm not saying it is ugly. I'm just saying it is over styled. They just tried to make more lines, curves, dips, grilles than necessary, IMO. Fake vents aren't all that bad, I understand why they do them. They does this have an upper, lower, and two side vents ALSO with a big black plastic piece in the middle AND the fake opening in the bottom lip? There's just so much going on that could easily have been smoothed out. The GLB EV is definitely the cleanest of the group you sent but it obviously has the FWD proportions still so it's overall not great. I don't think the Toyota would look *that* bad if they decided to paint those freakin fenders. I'm surprised you like this so much but also the Rivian as the R1T is nowhere near as busy as this. That Toyota is "okay" to me. It's a little busy as well but it isn't overly done, imo. It would look better without the little grille just under the hood and without the ones at the very bottom corners as well.

Tesla isn't the only one with issues. https://www.motortrend.com/news/ford-mustang-mach-e-recall-electric-nhtsa-battery/ The cause of this issue stems from repeated use of DC fast charging and driving at wide-open throttle that causes the contactors to overheat. When that overheating occurs, it deforms the electrical surfaces that prevents them from making contact or can cause arcing that can weld those surfaces to each other. This recall will affect 48,924 Mach Es, including ones that have not been handed over to customers as of yet. The repair Ford has issued for this recall is a software update to the Secondary On-Board Diagnostic Control Module (SOBDCM) and Battery Energy Control Module (BECM). While these will be performed with an Over-The-Air (OTA) update, unfortunately it won't be ready to roll out until next month. Similarly to the 12 volt battery charging issue, owners can take their Mach E into their local Ford or Lincoln dealership to do the update using their Ford Integrated Diagnostic Software (IDS). We also asked if this recall could potentially affect the 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning, but Ford wasn't able to respond to us if it has or hasn't in time for first publication. If they get back to us, we'll update this article accordingly.

Every current Toyota is a cleaner design than this. They may not be pretty but they're certainly cleaner and simpler than this. What I mean by over styled is they're adding things to just add things. It looks like there are 20 or so different body pieces going on in this picture. Big fake vents under the headlight with lines running through them, the bottom piece that has a bump up in it, there are just too many different lines going in too many different directions and it's just for the sake of styling. Oh and add in the lobster claw behind the rear wheel... I mean, what the heck is going on here?

You're 100% right here. I even know a designer over at GM, he works in GMC(only been there a couple years), who says this is way over styled. Fun fact, this has been around since before he started in 2019.

Why did that panel that removes for charging look gigantic?

Thank you for that information. I'm just saying that neither are perfect and I don't believe Musk heading other companies is the reason Teslas don't have consistent door panel gaps or bricking themselves.

Sounds like they're stepping in territory they've never been in. Good luck. I'd love to see them succeed up there.