bowtie_dude

I guarantee you we'll have to wait for Epsilon II before we see a better GM mid-size than the Accord.

The new Accord will be a damn hot car, too bad it won't get the sales it deserves.

Word. You can see the (slightly calmer) shape of the concept in the one shown.

I have a feeling this is going to blow the Malibu away.

Actually, everything but the front is fantastic. But the front is so horrible it ruins the whole car.

I honestly don't think it would stand for very long. Despite the greenies and liberals on TV, the vast majority of Americans like to have choices and not have the government force them, by way of taxation or otherwise, to choose. Prohibition didn't work, I don't think this will either.

Hopefully all GM is letting them touch is the engine on the SS. If they do that to the exterior, I'ma cut off some heads.

I think we're having a fantastic, mature discussion. Sure, its no longer about GMs RWD program, but still, nothing wrong with a little thread hijacking.

Methane is a very potent greenhouse gas, but as you said, there's not nearly as much of it as there is CO2 or as there was millions of years ago. Methane was actually the ORIGINAL greenhouse gas before life and, more specifically, plant life took hold. The first great ice age, where the entire planet froze into a solid chunk of ice (I'm not kidding), was caused when oxygen-producing bacteria in the ocean outpaced methane-producing bacteria. Oxygen, as it turns out, is a very lousy greenhouse gas, and the planet froze solid for a few thousand years.

Haha, Custom-S. The big problem about flatulence isn't HUMAN flatulence but BOVINE flatulence. :rotflmao:

Are you laughing with me or at me, griffon? Your posts suggests WITH me, but I just wanted to be sure.

The current temperature increase that started in the 90s also coincided with the closing of several arctic and former soviet union weather reporting stations. So the average global temperature is artificially high because we lost many stations that reported low temperatures.

If you don't mind ushering in a new ice age, sure!

Also, I'm not denying that humans have no effect on global climate, only that the effect is not a major contributing factor.

If higher CO2 concentration were the major cause of global temperature increase, it would stand to reason that the Southern Hemisphere, which has the SAME CO2 levels as the Northern, would be warming nearly or just as much as the Northern. But its not. In fact its only warming at 1/4 the rate of the Northern Hemisphere. So with that in mind, how can CO2 concentrations be a major cause of global warming if, despite identical CO2 concentration throughout, the globe isn't warming uniformly? Seems to me like the major cause is something else. Take a look at solar activity vs temperature of arctic regions, they almost match. A simple google search should get you those graphs from any number of websites.

If it turns out that the majority reason for the observed temperature changes is natural, then there isn't a problem. :AH-HA_wink:

Not its not. On top of MAJOR and extreme climate changes that occur every 100,000 years, there are periods of less extreme, but noticable climate change, in one direction or the other. Its commonly accepted that through much of the middle ages, the Earth was in a period of warmth, then immediately following and for the next few centuries the Earth went into a mini ice age, which only just ended during the 19th century.

I've also read and seen graphs that show a correlation between the Earths rising temperatures and increased activity in the Sun.

There are many other factors that are more in charge of the average temperature of the planet than CO2. A fact that demonstrates this is that the Souther Hemisphere has the same CO2 concentration as the Northern Hemisphere and is only warming at a rate of .05 Celsius a year, as opposed to the Northern which is warming at an average of .2 Celsius per year. Effectively debunking two things, among others, 1) That the entire globe is warming dramatically and 2) That increased CO2 emissions have a major impact on the warming of the globe.

Scrappy? I can believe he'd be a better president.

Or he could explain how carbon dioxide concentration isn't a major cause of global warming.

Read The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Environmentalism. If you can ignore the other books in the PIG series, which are admittedly a little ridiculous and not written by the same person, you'll find a lot of interesting information the greenies don't want you to know. Like the fact that the big warm up of the globe during the 1990s coincides with the closure of many reporting stations in the former Soviet Union and Arctic regions.

He's British, its not that he's anti-American, he's just very PRO-European like everyone else over there.

When Clarkson drove the Dodge SRT-10 Viper on one episode he remarked on all the safety stickers on the car, I almost pissed myself laughing. And then he mentioned the warning about the exhaust getting hot...and then the damn thing started smoking where the exhaust is... Wonderful.