surreal1272

Wow! Another thread, another headache from just reading the last page here.

I'm going to be honest. I got a headache just reading this thread. (Tips out)

And I am definitely high mileage with some busted OEM parts.

Thanks. For the record, there is a bottle of Patron Silver in the freezer with my name on it tonight. There is also the option of some sweet tea moonshine (not the strong stuff lol). Both were early birthday presents and will probably last two or three years because I rarely drink. I will enjoy some samples today though because that's what you're supposed to do. Besides, its a tradition and... (apologies in advance for the "language" but it's funny as "F")

100% the same! As recently as two months ago, I was diagnosed with two herniated discs in the L3 to L5 area, a small "normal" fracture in my L2, and discovered that I have congenital spinal stenosis, which explains a whole lot lol. That was from just one MRI and thats just for starters. That is the result of being the most rigid person on earth (my fingers have never been able to bend back like just about everyone else) and having no regard for body for the first 46 years of my life. Just told someone that yes, I am 49 today but 50 is looking at me like...

And right now, I think you give too little credit. We will skip the fact that pretty much until the last 10-15 years, the main objector to the EV movement wasn't the automotive industry. That would be big oil and that is a simple fact, because they have put themselves in the pockets of everyone concerned for well over a century and now they are seeing their influence slowly wane with more automakers committing to ZEVs. Not that they won't stop trying but the grip has weakened over the last 10-15 years or so and will continue to do so at this rate. I'm out. Time for an early BD cocktail and much deserved rest.

Oh good grief. I really don’t have the time to explain it to you in detail but quite simply, this has been in motion since the Obama years. It’s a known fact. The “180” was just being “on the ready” but every single one knew that the EV writing was on the wall long before a whole eleven months ago when Biden first took office.

No bassinet photo but there was the fat baby under a tree photo lol. Thanks. Nothing like 49, going on 70 (if you ask my sore body right now) lol. Very cool!

Thanks. Will be 49 tomorrow and yeah, feels weird to be one year from the half century mark.

Carvana and all like it are not long for this world because they are a joke in clown shoes. I'm with @smk4565 on this one. There have a few stories (industry related) that confirm this. I know you're a dealership fan but that is simply a fact that many folks have viewed dealerships as a failed model in the 21st century. Just saying.

Literally not a chance of that happening (for automakers). And reports widely vary on projected growth because there is still a lot of product that has to come out between now and 2030. Too many unknown variables to sound that certain. I know this. This has been in motion long before Biden so...

Saying "Like I said, perception lags" isn't really acknowledging what I am saying here but whatever, quite honestly. There is no perception lag where Toyota is concerned.

Exactly. All the effort they put into the interior design should have been dedicated to that low rent looking exterior and maybe add a frunk while you’re at it. That is not the “best or nothing”.

Taking the “comparing apples to gas powered oranges” to a whole other level I see? Face it. The EQS is a huge let down and you’ve have been pedaling endless excuses for it by pointing out the perceived (and easily debunked) flaws of everyone else. Classic deflection.

Cite an actual the year of said Camry that you think would sell for $10K. The only models I have seen (via Autotrader) that can sell for that kind of coin are the hybrid models, which sell for far more new than the regular Camrys. Not one Camry over ten years old sells for anywhere close to $10K with that kind of mileage.

And it’s sounding not so vaguely like you still are missing the point so let me say it one more time. Those sales were mentioned to illustrate the fact that it is directly connected to the perception that those buyers have about Toyota, a perception you claim (without proof) doesn’t exist or is somehow “waning”. It is really that simple. You don’t like Toyota. I get it. I don’t care for everything they do either. However, I am also not blind and can also discern (without the anti-Toyota bias you’ve shown over the years here) that millions of people perceive Toyotas as reliable and dependable. It was true thirty years ago and it’s true now and that perception has not changed for most people, whether you want to acknowledge that fact or not.

And you are wrong on that too. Outside of their full size pick up SUV offerings, they sell everything they can make and they sell more than the competition (on average) and it is precisely because of that advantage that you think doesn’t exist. Btw, you need to read what I actually said about your POS statement. That’s all I’m goi g to say because you clearly misread it.

And my statement is that they STILL have that advantage. Not sure how you can interpret that any other way. And no offense but you have implied (many times) that Toyotas are basically junk and garbage so there is that.

There are all sorts of opinions online. I can go to any number of forums related to various cars owned by various members here and can find plenty of problems. The point is that the internet is for complainers and no one compliments anything to anywhere near the same degree as which they would direct a complaint. That is a fact. The fact also remains that Toyota and Lexis routinely clean everyone's clock in just about every reliability survey. That doesn't mean that everyone else sucks but to think Toyotas are somehow piles of $h! (for whatever reason) is beyond ill-informed.

No they really haven't despite your many claims to such things. Issues? Yes. Recalls? Also yes. Does that mean their reliability is garbage? Nope. not one damn bit. Being built less than ten miles from my house, for the record. I will say this too. For all of Toyotas problems with quick changes in the market (and their stupid commitment to hydrogen), if you think they won't catch up in a hurry, then you are fooling yourself. That have the capital to get on the wagon quick. Being first to produce something doesn't mean squat in the car world anymore.

I’ve worked at three different dealerships in two states and I will respectfully disagree with you and @ccap41 on this. And you got lucky on your truck, end of story because that is not the norm on full size trucks and you know that.

That would be a fine point if it weren't for the fact that dealerships have been doing this for FAR longer than two years. The current environment has nothing to do the decades of overall greed in the form of dealership MAs. Trust me. When all this supply chain nonsense winds down, that practice will not stop.

Well you sure showed me @oldshurst442</sarcasm>. Just remember. Just because you don’t understand context (the fact that almost all of David’s complaints about Tesla have been backed with sources and facts and never been about one damn taillight as you are implying on here) and would rather cherry pick something to death doesn’t mean everyone else here has to subscribe to the same thinking. This thread was about Tesla until you made it about David. Think about it before continuing on this pointless crusade of yours.

Down voted for the sheer ignorance and bitchiness. By all means though, just take up another page over this mole hill.

Agree to disagree. Just seems like you are (yet again) making a mountain out of a mole hole, is all. Carry on.